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Cell's Solar System Busting
Topic Started: Jun 4 2014, 07:33 PM (1,163 Views)
EMIYA Jun 4 2014, 07:33 PM Post #1
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 We were discussing Cell's solar busting statement around the versus section and I wanted to bring it here. When Cell makes this statement what do you believe he's referring to.

A.) Cell is speaking of blowing away the entire solar system (The sun and the planets and stuff) including the distance between the objects themselves as well.

B.) Cell is speaking about destroying the total mass of the solar system without taking into account the distance. In short, it would be like taking the sun and the planets and putting them into one spot.

C>) Cell is speaking about destroying the sun itself which is essentially destroying the solar system in the long run.

D.) Cell's on crack and doesn't know ****.

E.) Other

Personally I choose B. I'm going to assume that Cell's not talking out of his *** too much, but its a lot easier for me to think Cell's talking about the total mass of the Solar system and not actually thinking he's going to some how spread out his attack thousands upon thousands of miles to somehow hit Pluto and the likes. Especially when nobody in DBZ has shown the ability to spread out their attack to such a degree.
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Mihawk Jun 4 2014, 07:39 PM Post #2
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 I'm with B except that I believe he's referring to a common reason for the solar system dying out known as star death. The chain reaction would be more than enough to take out the majority of the solar system.

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I personally don't buy Solar System busting by Cell either. I think it's exactly what he said: he has enough energy to destroy the Solar System. Just because he has enough energy doesn't mean he will especially with an attack that just goes in a straight line like Kamehameha. Most likely factoring Beers with BoG and how much of a gap there is between them, I think Cell can only destroy most of the Solar System through chain reaction of how most solar systems are destroyed (star death). He was exaggerating when he said he's stronger than Gohan, I think it makes sense that he'd exaggerate a by saying he'd destroy the entire solar system with a linear attack like KHH.

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Event Horizon Jun 4 2014, 07:41 PM Post #3
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 If we include the movies, if I remember correctly, Cooler's Supernova had a blast radius that stretched from the Sun almost all the way to Earth.
So I'd say it's not entirely impossible for Cell's Kamehameha to indeed have an immense blast radius that could go all the way to Neptune, assuming they mean the solar system ends after the last planet, which is Neptune.
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EMIYA Jun 4 2014, 07:44 PM Post #4
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"I am the bone of my sword."

 We're talking manga here...anime is far different.
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+ Yusuke Jun 4 2014, 07:51 PM Post #5
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 Mixture of B and D.

For one, it was shown in the Buu Saga that Kid Buu couldn't destroy more than 1 planet and he had no reason to hold his blast back.

Not to mention he was a nut for thinking he could take out Gohan easily.
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+ Ssj3vegito96 Jun 4 2014, 08:13 PM Post #6
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 If cell was referring to blowing up the sun he wouldn't have said solar system. I think that's twisting his words too much. So C is out of the question for me. I can't think of any other theories so E is also out of the question for me.

I don't even think of considering D. Toriyama is consistent with his characters claims on destructive power being true. They've been able to destroy planets since early dbz it's not a stretch IMO to say that characters like SPC and stronger are that powerful considering the early dbz people can't even begin to imagine the power of super saiyan goku from namek and final form frieza, let alone cell games characters

For me, I find it hard hard to believe he can expand the KHH wave across the entire solar system but his KHH definitely had the power compacted in it to destroy the entire solar system. Beerus apparently has some kind of technique that expands the blast radius across the entire solar system
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PG14 Jun 4 2014, 09:15 PM Post #7
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 Someone told me to share this here:
Personally, I view the Solar System level statement as how it was...energy that would be enough to spread out and blow away planets like you would blow away a dandelion.

The description of blowing away the solar system just doesn't fit with the whole chain reaction theory for a couple of reasons:

1. "Blowing away" something technically describes a singular event. I've blown away a car, I've blown away a city, I've blown away a dandelion, etc, etc, etc. So, the chain reaction is essentially two events being described, not one.

2. A chain reaction wouldn't be blowing away something, it would essentially be blowing away a magnet, and having a car speed off into the distance despite not just a few minutes ago. So, the chain reaction just doesn't fit the act of blowing something away. In fact, destroying the sun, would essentially be like letting the planets go, instead of blowing them away.

So, I believe Cell could, or would have, destroyed the solar system via explosion, as, IIRC, Kamehameha's have sometimes exploded...I think.

That's just my thoughts.
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+ Solid Snake Jun 4 2014, 09:29 PM Post #8
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 A) for me, I see no reason to think or believe otherwise. So Kid Buu just destroyed Earth, no one has no proof that Kid Buu was serious afterwards either. The only time I would say he was serious was when the Spirit Bomb was on him. Before then he was screwing with everyone.

Akira's a simple guys after all, you think he gives a flying fadoodle about the distance? If he has Cell saying he can destroy the Solar System then that's it.
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EMIYA Jun 4 2014, 09:38 PM Post #9
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"I am the bone of my sword."

 Apparently Kid Boo was serious enough that Goku didn't even bother going SSj3 to try and stop it...and again that didn't blow away the entire solar system despite the fact that it obviously has more power than Cell's KHH.
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+ Solid Snake Jun 4 2014, 09:46 PM Post #10
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Jun 4 2014, 09:38 PM
Apparently Kid Boo was serious enough that Goku didn't even bother going SSj3 to try and stop it...and again that didn't blow away the entire solar system despite the fact that it obviously has more power than Cell's KHH.
Ever consider that even with SSJ3 that Kid Buu's attack had to much of an amp? His Kamehameha doesn't surpass the Final Flash in amp for starter, so that should help say the KHH wouldn't help much.
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EMIYA Jun 4 2014, 09:48 PM Post #11
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"I am the bone of my sword."

 That's not the point I'm making. I'm making the point that regardless of how much Kid Boo is holding back, his attack should be stronger than Cell's the detonation of that blast should have wiped out the entire solar system that they were living in by the sheer fact that if Cell>Solar system and Kid Boo>Cell. Especially considering how unhinged Kid Boo is.
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Goddess Ultimecia Jun 4 2014, 09:48 PM Post #12
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Apparently Kid Boo was serious enough that Goku didn't even bother going SSj3 to try and stop it...and again that didn't blow away the entire solar system despite the fact that it obviously has more power than Cell's KHH.
Ever consider that even with SSJ3 that Kid Buu's attack had to much of an amp? His Kamehameha doesn't surpass the Final Flash in amp for starter, so that should help say the KHH wouldn't help much.
If Kid Boo's attack exploded and was apparently too much of an amp for SSJ3 Goku's KHH to handle, wouldn't that make it far stronger than SPC's Solar KHH? Shouldn't that of wiped the Solar System away? Instead of just the planet?
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+ Solid Snake Jun 4 2014, 09:53 PM Post #13
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That's not the point I'm making. I'm making the point that regardless of how much Kid Boo is holding back, his attack should be stronger than Cell's the detonation of that blast should have wiped out the entire solar system that they were living in by the sheer fact that if Cell>Solar system and Kid Boo>Cell. Especially considering how unhinged Kid Boo is.
People can hold back any amount they want. I can lift 100 tons but I can restrain myself to just lift 50 tons.
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Sjk8 Jun 4 2014, 09:56 PM Post #14
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We were discussing Cell's solar busting statement around the versus section and I wanted to bring it here. When Cell makes this statement what do you believe he's referring to.

A.) Cell is speaking of blowing away the entire solar system (The sun and the planets and stuff) including the distance between the objects themselves as well.

B.) Cell is speaking about destroying the total mass of the solar system without taking into account the distance. In short, it would be like taking the sun and the planets and putting them into one spot.

C>) Cell is speaking about destroying the sun itself which is essentially destroying the solar system in the long run.

D.) Cell's on crack and doesn't know ****.

E.) Other

Personally I choose B. I'm going to assume that Cell's not talking out of his *** too much, but its a lot easier for me to think Cell's talking about the total mass of the Solar system and not actually thinking he's going to some how spread out his attack thousands upon thousands of miles to somehow hit Pluto and the likes. Especially when nobody in DBZ has shown the ability to spread out their attack to such a degree.


Option B is the most reasonable: take every planet of the Solar System, "calculate" the amount of energy to blow it up, take the Sun, do the same thing, and then sum the amounts of energy required you've got; there, this is, on paper, the energy theoretically required to blow up all the "things" the SS contains ("thing" by "thing"), and this energy was the same amount released by Cell's Kamehameha (in the same way the Galick Gun had the energy required to blow up the Earth).
Edited by Sjk8, Jun 4 2014, 10:01 PM.
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EMIYA Jun 4 2014, 09:56 PM Post #15
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People can hold back any amount they want. I can lift 100 tons but I can restrain myself to just lift 50 tons.


That makes no sense though. Your saying htat Kid Boo can blow up the solar system in a way that means it will cover the entire solar system distance. Yet you are saying that because he only destroyed the Earth, he was holding back. By that definition, Kid Boo was weaker than SPC.
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